Mastermind behind Insulate Britain eco-mob says he would have REFUSED to move for crying woman trying to get to mother, 81, in hospital and would block an ambulance with dying patient inside after activists brought three London routes to standstill
A climate zealot who founded the Extinction Rebellion splinter group which brought parts of London to a standstill for more than four hours during this morning's rush hour has revealed that he would block an ambulance which contained a dying person.
In an extraordinary admission to the Unbreak the Planet podcast, Insulate Britain mastermind Roger Hallam told presenter Mike Galsworthy that he would also have refused to move for a crying woman who was trying to get to her unwell 81-year-old mother in hospital.
The chilling exchange comes after a tearful woman trying to get to her unwell 81-year-old mother in a Canterbury hospital slammed 'selfish' eco-morons who had blocked the Blackwall Tunnel, Hanger Lane and Wandsworth Bridge between 8am and 12pm.
Tensions flared as a paramedic crew joined furious drivers and pulled enviro-idiots - some of whom are repeat offenders who have been arrested and released by police during past demos - off the road at Wandsworth Bridge, while a woman at Blackwall Tunnel trying to get to her mother in hospital lashed out at the mob: 'How can you be so selfish?'
Married father-of-one Bill Wilson, 55, who has serious health problems after spending weeks in a coma after testing positive for Covid, was even forced to cancel three important hi-tech scans at Royal Brompton Hospital due to Insulate Britain's stunt.
The eco-mob's protest - the eleventh in the past month - caused huge tailbacks and inflicted misery on millions of people trying to get into the capital, including workers trying to help kickstart London's wounded economy after 18 months of Covid restrictions.
But attempt to justify his stance, Hallam told Unbreak the Planet: 'What we're talking about is the loss of people's pensions in the next ten years, the loss of people's incomes, the mass migration of hundreds of millions of people, the indescribable injustice to people of colour in the global south because of the collective selfishness of people in the north.
'We're talking about the biggest crime in human history imposed by the rich against the global poor.'
Hallam, an organic farmer who lost his business because of severe weather, set up his splinter group when he caused a rift within XR by telling a German newspaper the Holocaust was 'just another f***ery in human history'. He later said his remark was taken out of context.
The climate zealot has also called for those 'responsible' for climate change to face Nuremberg-style trials and even suggested they should receive a 'a bullet in the head' as punishment. He told the Times: 'The question will be who's culpable, in the same way [as] with the Nazis.
'Was it just the top Nazis or was it the small guys?'
Insulate Britain, which is demanding that the Government insulate the UK's 29 million homes by 2030, brazenly defied another injunction meant to stop them from causing traffic chaos while Met Police officers appeared to stand idly by. The force eventually tweeted the roads were clear of protesters at 12.20pm - more than four hours after the demo began.
The group have targeted major commuter routes into the capital as millions of workers are encouraged to get back into offices to help kickstart London's wounded economy after 18 months of various Covid restrictions including national lockdowns.
The latest stunt also comes amid a fuel crisis in London and the South East which is so severe that Army tanker drivers are taking to the roads today to deliver supplies to beleaguered petrol stations as panic-buyers leave forecourts dry.
Thirty-eight arrests have been made after police came under intense public criticism for failing to move protesters off the roads quickly in the past. Officers previously complained that they lack powers to stop them from bringing the M25, M1 and M4 to a standstill.
An Insulate Britain spokeswoman said: 'We're more scared of what will happen when the climate crisis causes the breakdown of law and order, than we are of injunctions and prison. The Government is focussing on us rather than what's coming down the road. They need to face up to reality. If our Government really wants to do something for hard-working families it should act decisively to insulate Britain's homes. It will help people with rising energy bills, prevent 8,500 fuel poverty deaths this winter and cut carbon emissions in the most cost-effective way possible.'
Today's rush hour demo comes just 24 hours after Prime Minister Boris Johnson threatened to lock up activists who cause gridlocks on vital transport arteries for six months or impose unlimited fines in a bid to get tough as the Tory Party conference opens in Manchester.
It is also likely to heap further pressure on under-fire Scotland Yard chief Cressida Dick, who has been batting away growing calls to resign after presiding over a litany of failures including the rape and murder of Sarah Everard by Met officer Wayne Couzens.
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Speaking to the Unbreak the Planet podcast, Insulate Britain mastermind Roger Hallam told presenter Mike Galsworthy that he would also have refused to move for a crying woman who was trying to get to her unwell 81-year-old mother in hospital
This is the moment a van driver attempted to get round Insulate Britain protesters as they started to block the A12 at the Blackwall Tunnel
Activists from Insulate Britain climate change protest group block the Hanger Lane gyratory on the A40 junction
Enviro-idiots have sparked traffic chaos yet again by blocking Blackwall Tunnel
Activists from Insulate Britain climate change protest group block the Hanger Lane gyratory on the A40 junction
LEFT: An Insulate Britain protester being arrested by police for blocking Hanger Lane today. RIGHT: Police officers detain the same Insulate Britain activist blocking a motorway junction on the M4 near Heathrow Airport on Friday
LEFT: Retired reverend Mark Coleman sits on the the A40 junction with the North Circular today. RIGHT: Mr Coleman was also involved in an Insulate Britain protest at junction 10 on September 21
10am: This Google Map shows traffic snarled up across Central London after Insulate Britain protesters targeted the Blackwall Tunnel, Hanger Lane and Wandsworth Bridge during rush hour 
A large queue of traffic on the A102 Blackwall Tunnel approach after activists from Insulate Britain blocked part of the tunnel earlier this morning
Traffic on the southbound approach to the Blackwall Tunnel in London caused by eco-protesters
Activists from Insulate Britain climate change protest group block the Hanger Lane gyratory on the A40 junction
Police detain activists from Insulate Britain climate change protest group as they block the Hanger Lane gyratory
Police detain activists from Insulate Britain climate change protest group as they block the Hanger Lane gyratory
Insulate Britain protesters are dragged off the road at Wandsworth Bridge by angry motorists
Insulate Britain protesters sitting on the side of the A12, Poplar, leading to the Blackwall Tunnel
Police make arrests after Insulate Britain, an offshoot of Extinction Rebellion, block Wandsworth Bridge
Fifty-four demonstrators from XR splinter group Insulate Britain clashed with hardworking motorists on the Blackwall Tunnel, Hanger Lane and Wandsworth Bridge Hallam co-founded XR three years ago with Gail Bradbrook and Simon Bramwell.
Explaining the fallout, Bramwell said: 'Roger is a very controversial figure and he can be difficult to get on with. But at the end of the day we both want the same thing and I have to admit that he is someone who gets things done.'
In his interview with the Mail, Hallam said: 'Insulation isn't the sexiest thing in the world. But it's what most ordinary people care about.'
'Everyone knows someone in fuel poverty, and lots of old people are in houses which are damp and cold in the winter and it kills thousands of people a year, prematurely.'
He has also said he wants to 'bring down all the regimes in the world', starting with Britain, and believes those running society 'should have a bullet through their heads'.
There have been allegations that he has 'cult-like' followers who liken him to Martin Luther King.
According to The Times, Insulate Britain's protest strategy revolves around the mass imprisonment of its activists, making it even more extreme than Extinction Rebellion.
At a meeting earlier this year, Hallam said: 'We have an absolute responsibility to go further. Five hundred people in prison will produce legislative change.
'Going to a bank and smashing windows [as XR have done] is not material resistance. It's symbolic and it's not going to change anything. What will change things is if fuel supplies stop, or people can't get to work in the mornings.'
Hallam believes that calls for more insulation are 'achievable and winnable', in comparison to more 'grand-scale demands'.
A Metropolitan Police spokesman tweeted: 'Officers are dealing with protestors who have blocked parts of the A2, A3, A12 and A40. While the roads remain open, there is heavy disruption at all four locations with slow moving traffic while work is underway to remove those who have glued themselves onto the road.
'So far, 38 arrests have been made for disruption of the highway and conspiracy to cause public nuisance.
'At approximately 0800hrs, protestors blocked the southern approach of Blackwall Tunnel. By 0809hrs police were on scene. At 0820hrs, protestors moved onto the North Circular Road near Hanger Lane and blocked the road. Officers were on scene by 0828hrs.
'At 0845hrs, protestors obstructed the road at the junction at Lochnagar Street at northern approach of the Blackwall tunnel. Officers were on scene within minutes. At 0846hrs, a number of protestors moved onto Wandsworth Bridge. Officers are on scene by 0900hrs.
'We consider protests of this nature unreasonable and are acting as quickly as possible to minimise disruption caused to members of the public using the roads.'
Home Secretary Priti Patel will this week unveil the crackdown on motorway protests, with tougher sentences introduced by amending the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill.
While National Highways has been granted injunctions to prevent people from obstructing roads, officers cannot arrest people for flouting the court orders because it is a civil not a criminal matter.
The new laws are expected to be on the statute book by the turn of the year. However, Whitehall sources remain wary that the government can only go so far in terms of restricting disruption.
An offence of 'obstructing a highway' already exists, but carries only a maximum fine of £1,000. The proposed increased penalties will mean police can remand protesters in custody after charging them, and create a criminal record for them.
Insulate Britain - which is demanding the Government pay for all homes in the country to be insulated by 2030 - has brought major roads to a standstill with eleven protests in less than three weeks. Around 450 arrests have been made so far.
Mr Johnson said: 'This Government will always stand on the side of the law-abiding majority and ensure the toughest penalties possible for criminals who deliberately bring major roads to a standstill.
'We will give the police the powers they need to stop their reckless and selfish behaviour. The right to protest is sacrosanct, but there is no right to inflict chaos and misery on people trying to go about their lives.'
The Prime Minister outlined his hardline stance against the backdrop of the separate road chaos caused by the 'absolutely horrendous' fuel crisis, which has led to a critical shortage of petrol on forecourts across London and the South East of England.
The Government obtained an injunction meaning anyone blocking the M25 could be found to be in contempt of court, which carries a maximum penalty of two years in prison or an unlimited fine.
So far the first injunction, taken out on September 21, has had little to no effect on the protests - and appears to have made the campaigners even more focused on causing as much disruption as possible around the capital.
The injunctions do not give the police extra powers, and instead give National Highways the ability to apply to a court to find someone in contempt of court. But this makes no immediate difference and can take months to sort.
A senior Government source last night said: 'We can't have Labour councillors and crusties making life hell for mothers on the school run and van drivers making vital deliveries. The law does not currently reflect the serious disruption caused by these dangerous actions.'
Miss Patel said: 'The right to protest is a fundamental principle of our democracy but we will not tolerate guerrilla tactics that obstruct people going about their day-to-day business.
'That is why we will increase the maximum penalty for disrupting a motorway to an unlimited fine or up to six months in prison - or both.
'While the Labour Party stand on the side of these so-called 'activists', the Conservative Party will always back the law-abiding, hard-working majority in this country.'
Amid reports of conflict between the Home Office and the DfT, sources said Miss Patel was aghast at the length of time being taken to deal with the crisis by the DfT's highways agency.
'The real problem is with National Highways,' one source said. 'Priti is concerned that it has been very slow in responding. It has just not been quick enough.'
12pm: This Google Map shows how the protests are still causing a knock-on effect on traffic in Central London
Police use a roadblock to divert traffic on the A102 Blackwall Tunnel approach after activists from Insulate Britain blocked part of the tunnel earlier this morning
Police use a roadblock to divert traffic on the A102 Blackwall Tunnel approach after activists from Insulate Britain blocked part of the tunnel earlier this morning
Insulate Britain protesters sitting on the side of the A12, Poplar, leading to the Blackwall Tunnel
Insulate Britain protesters sitting on the side of the A12, Poplar, leading to the Blackwall Tunnel
A Google traffic map shows disruption on the approach to the Blackwall Tunnel this morning during rush hour
A Google traffic map shows disruption on Wandsworth Bridge this morning during rush hour
Insulate Britain protesters are dragged off the road at Wandsworth Bridge by angry motorists
Fifty demonstrators from XR splinter group Insulate Britain clashed with motorists as they blocked major roads during rush hour
Insulate Britain - which is demanding the Government pay for all homes in the country to be insulated by 2030 - has brought major roads to a standstill with eleven protests in less than three weeks
Home Secretary Priti Patel will this week unveil the crackdown on motorway protests, with tougher sentences introduced by amending the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill
Enviro-idiots have shut down all four corners of London by blocking the Blackwall Tunnel, Hanger Lane, Wandsworth Bridge and Arnos Grove today
Fifty demonstrators from XR splinter group Insulate Britain clashed with motorists as they blocked major roads during rush hour
Police have complained they lack sufficient powers to stop eco-protesters from bringing the M25, M1 and M4 to a standstill
The proposal for a contra mundum injunction - Latin for 'against the world' - is believed to have come from former Solicitor General Michael Ellis QC, who was appointed Paymaster General in Boris Johnson's reshuffle last month. Proposals for the measure are being drawn up and will be put to a High Court judge within days, the Mail understands.
Deputy Metropolitan Police commissioner Sir Stephen House described the protests as 'lunacy' and said he feared officers' lives are at risk dealing with the demonstrations.
'The most recent one I saw had officers running between articulated lorries that were moving on the main carriageway of the M25,' he told the London Assembly.
Police forces have improved in their response to the protests, sometimes managing to reopen carriageways within an hour.
National Highways - previously Highways England - and its bosses at the DfT, however, have failed to respond convincingly to a crisis about to enter its fourth week.
When first asked about how they would enforce the injunction after it was flouted on Monday, National Highways wrongly said that this was an 'enforcement matter' for the police. However, a day later the agency said it was 'taking legal advice' after realising it was up to them to haul the protesters to the High Court for potential imprisonment or a fine.
On Wednesday the injunction was breached twice more, when protesters blocked junction 3 of the M25 on two occasions.
National Highways said it was 'working with the police to establish names of the protesters and if they have been previously arrested', despite their identities being widely reported.
Simultaneously, the DfT claimed it could not 'comment on the specifics around ongoing legal matters', despite contempt of court proceedings being public.
By Wednesday evening, however, the DfT said it was 'already knocking on doors and serving papers to offenders who will be sent to court and could face fines or prison'.
Tory activists jeered the mention of Insulate Britain during a Cabinet minister's speech, as one attendee called for the protesting environmentalists to be 'locked up'.
A reference by Transport Secretary Grant Shapps to 'Insulate Britain or whatever they are calling themselves these days' was met with boos at a fringe Maritime UK drinks reception at the Conservative Party conference on Sunday evening.
One attendee at the Manchester reception could be heard saying 'lock them up' after Mr Shapps mentioned Insulate Britain, which is an offshoot of Extinction Rebellion.
The reaction came as the Transport Secretary was giving a speech about the need to build carbon emission-free ships, which he said could be used for 'booze cruises'.
He said: 'Here is a dirty little secret about this sector that you all know, but don't tell those folks from Insulate Britain or whatever they are calling themselves these days - transport and aviation are often targeted because of their greenhouse gases as they are two very visible forms of transport, but actually when it comes to shipping, they (environmental groups) largely ignore it, thank goodness for that.
'But actually UK shipping is a producer of greenhouse gases - we need to sort that out.
'We know that we expect trade to double over the next few decades, so to get permission for maritime to continue, we need to sort it out as well.'
Mr Shapps said Britain could 'lead zero carbon in shipping by 2050' through technological innovation in ship building.
The former Tory party chairman added: 'We can go on booze cruises together - but those cruises are going to be completely green, we're going to remove all the carbon, it is going to be an eco-friendly ship that we are all going to be travelling on, and we're going to build that ship in Britain.'
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